sunnuntai 1. tammikuuta 2023

Wisdom and jhana?

 


Wisdom and jhana?



There’s no jhāna for one without wisdom;

No wisdom for one without jhāna.

But for one with both jhāna and wisdom,

Nibbana truly is near.


The Buddha, Dhammapada 372




Baba: When seeing quotes like this, I wonder about how wide (or narrow) the technical understanding of mind the author has/had because in ancient times, in this case 2500 years ago, people didn't have access to that many teachings and traditions, and many approaches and interpretations that have existed since hadn't yet developed or hadn't spread. It's a free world for people to do whatever they like but I think that it is good to healthily question all, both ancient and modern teachings, ways and views.

Based on having practiced jhanas, meditative absorptions, for few thousand hours I disagree with the Buddha if the context is wisdom. Existential ignorance is due to self-based views and beliefs and existential wisdom comes from seeing through those views but jhanas are not for this purpose. Jhanas are pleasant states of mind that are an unsuitable ground for wisdom insight for the simple reason that in jhanic states there is no material to look and see through, other than the state itself, so why spend so much time and effort in finding such states in the first place?

From the perspective of ignorance and wisdom (prajna) this is like trying to remove a stone from one's show by putting another one, perhaps a smoother one in there. In the context of wisdom this is purely misleading.

In the context of healing, though, it is a different matter. Taking vacations at the beach side and hiking up in the mountains in high altitudes are known to have healing effects.

With respect.